[Gem Dandi]

Highborn, wealthy, wed to Wizardry Royalty, just who is this man?

I was rather amused that JKR was shocked that after viewing COS several of her friends confided in her that they though Lucius Malfoy was attractive. Jo, honey, not Lucius--Jason Issacs is HOT, especially without the wig with that cute little receeding hairline...I digress.
The Professor's not in here is he?

All right, back to the subject at hand:

I particulary dislike Lucius, but because of his connection to Snape we have to wonder what if anything is hidden behind that SS exterior.

Lucius, following a half blood? Give me a break. Dog Star puts it down to the biggest Bully in the Play yard syndrome, but could there be more? If so;what is he really up to? Is Snape assisting him?

His marraige to Narcissa Black: Convenience or True Love/Lust?

Just WHAT is his relationship to Snape, and why did Dog Star think he could insult Snape with the relationship?

Using the conversation between Draco and Daddy in Knockturn alley: What kind of father do you think he is?

How often have we seen Snape and Lucius together?

What caused Snape to start forward when Harry named Lucius as a Death Eater, (First an Foremost), In GOF?

[TwistyBobcatPretzel]

Lucius is my third favorite character, but I am afraid I am a little bias. I am a Jason Isaacs nut.

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His marraige to Narcissa Black: Convenience or True Love/Lust?

I have to say that I think his marriage is one of convenience. Probably an arranged marriage. Be it one of family origins or maybe something that The Dark Lord wanted..who knows. The only problem with that is I don't see Lucius doing anything that he doesn't want to do if there are other options available. There has to be planty of other pureblood witches out there for him.

Narcissa really isn't explained as of yet and with the current flow of the story I doubt she will ever be. One has to wonder what the marriage is like for her.

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Using the conversation between Draco and Daddy in Knockturn alley: What kind of father do you think he is?

I think he is a very damanding father. Someone who does not tolerate weakness or failure. He obviuosly is influencing Draco to become a Muggleborn hater just like he himself seems to be. I also think that Lucius highly protective of his son, I think deep down that is why he is so harsh on him.

And yes I know it didn't even look like he cared when Draco fell off his broom at the quidditch match, but honestly I would rather have a parent who knows what I would be able to handle than one who coddles me everytime I fall or trip.

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Just WHAT is his relationship to Snape, and why did Dog Star think he could insult Snape with the relationship?

Who is Dog Star? I think that way back when Snape and Lucius were close friends. Maybe it was one of those friendships where one friend takes advantage of the other. I can see Lucius taking advantage of Snapes apparent problems with Potter Sr. and his lot. Their relationship now is a little iffy. Since it is confirmed that Lucius is a practicing Death Eater it would appear that Snape isn't on the best terms with the blonde bombshell (ooops. The Jason nut in me came out. Will try to beat the aformentioned nut into submission)

[Gem Dandi]

Mister Black, Lucius cousin-in-law is named for the Star called by Egyptians Osirus.
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I prefer Dog Star to Lapdog.

Because of this website's filter the above link will not work. type in S-i-r-i-o-u-s if you want the link to work.

[TwistyBobcatPretzel]

ahh...got ya!

[Daphne]

I have to admit that I like Lucius Malfoy as a character as well. However, this was not the case until I saw the films (which didn't happen until about a year ago). I liked Jason Isaacs in the role enough to appreciate Lucius as a sensuous bad boy. However, I could never have the level of fascination with Lucius that I do with Severus, as Lucius is rather more one dimensional: he's evil, no redemption, no complexities -- just bad.

Lucius, following a half blood? Give me a break. Dog Star puts it down to the biggest Bully in the Play yard syndrome, but could there be more? If so;what is he really up to? Is Snape assisting him?
I've always had a feeling that Lucius was in it for the power. It's very clear that he's high up in the DE ranks, and I don't think that's an accident. I could definitely see him using the Dark Lord as a stepping stone to be Minister of Magic someday. Furthermore, I think it's entirely possible that Snape, for whatever reason, was helping him; perhaps they were even in on the conspiracy together, as both seem hungry for power.

Just WHAT is his relationship to Snape, and why did Dog Star think he could insult Snape with the relationship?
I believe that Lucius is using Snape as much as Snape is using Lucius... Lucius wants his son to excel in school; Snape can make that happen. Snape wants information on DE activities; Lucius can make that happen. It's a matter of mutual convenience. After all, I highly doubt they are or were ever friends, as Slytherins seem too concerned with self preservation to have selfless commitments to one another.

As for why [that lapdog] would taunt Snape about being Lucius' lapdog, I believe it was just another way in which [that lapdog] thought he could make Severus feel dependent on someone and, therefore, less of a man; it was a way to remind Severus that, just as in his childhood, he'll always have someone bullying him.

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Narcissa really isn't explained as of yet and with the current flow of the story I doubt she will ever be.

JKR has said, though, that we will not see Lucius but see Narcissa in the upcoming books, that her role will be one of increased importance. I'm curious to see what this role could entail, as up until now I've dismissed her as an unimportant character. I do hope she's someone sympathetic, though.

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And yes I know it didn't even look like he cared when Draco fell off his broom at the quidditch match, but honestly I would rather have a parent who knows what I would be able to handle than one who coddles me everytime I fall or trip.

Good point; I agree. Furthermore, I think it may have been embarrassment on Lucius' behalf that Draco failed. This ties into Lucius' parenting skills -- I think he puts an extreme amount of pressure on Draco to excel and behave perfectly (like at Borgin and Burkes). However, I don't think this is a one-sided issue -- I think Draco wants to please his father just as much.

[deense]

Lucius, following a half blood? Give me a break. Dog Star puts it down to the biggest Bully in the Play yard syndrome, but could there be more? If so;what is he really up to? Is Snape assisting him?
I don't think anyone knows of his background actually, and he's too powerful for anyone to mention it. After all, they like his objectives, and I think they are scared of him, though they would never admit that. We already know the [Do not say the Dark Lord's name!] doesn't back away from using torture on his followers.


His marraige to Narcissa Black: Convenience or True Love/Lust?
I personally have a theory that Lucius doesn't really trust anyone. I think it was an arranged marriage, but that he does have some sort of affection for her

Just WHAT is his relationship to Snape, and why did Dog Star think he could insult Snape with the relationship?
I see Snape being the follower in that relationship. I think at some point in the past Snape has been in some sort of trouble, and Lucius got him out of it. Does anyone know the dates Lucius was at school?

Using the conversation between Draco and Daddy in Knockturn alley: What kind of father do you think he is?
I think he cares about Draco, in his way, but I think that it's limited. To him family honour seems more important, and I see him being a very proud and distant parent, rewarding achievment, but not witholding his disdain when Draco did something wrong.

[Icybeach]

The Lexicon notes him down to 1965 - 1972 - which means he's older than Snape, but shared Hogwarts with him between 1971 and 1972. They base Lucius's school years on this:

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He was 41 years old in the fall of 1995, which means he was probably born in 1954 (OP15)

Icy

[deense]

that brings some interesting thoughts to my mind...

Do you think Lucius was prefect? Why or Why not?
I say yes. Lucius has a lot of pride, and for some reason it just fits. After all, Draco would then be following in his father's footsteps. I also think Lucius got a feeling for power early, and this might be one of those times.

Do you think perhaps Lucius stopped the marauders from picking on Snape for his first year or two? In relation to that, could you see Lucius being mean to the younger students, even those in his own house?

[Miss K]

TwistyBobcatPretzel, on Sep 5 2004, 01:12 PM, said:

Lucius is my third favorite character, but I am afraid I am a little bias. I am a Jason Isaacs nut.

Isn't it funny how we have our characters listed by favorites? Sorry, !!

Do you think Lucius was prefect? Why or Why not?
Yes, I think he was. He seems like a DE leader, and that is what is admired as a prefect- leadership. Remember, The Dark Lord was Head Boy, which means he was admired by staff, if it wasn't even The Dark Lord.

Some more questions:

When do you think Lucius started working for The Dark Lord? What made him join him?Based on Lucius' position in the DE (fairly high up, I believe) I think he was one of his first followers. I think he joined just for the whole "Purge the world of Muggles," idea. I think he joined on his own, and wasn't forced or bribed.

Oh! I just thought of something: The Dark Lord was Head Boy. Maybe Lucius was a student and looked up to him? *Quick math* Nahh...that wouldn't work. Darn!

Do you think Lucius will ever be redeemed?
No. I think he had been digging him self in deeper, and can't get out. Not that I think he would want to. Even if other people (Narcissa, Draco) wanted him to leave, I think he's too stubborn and proud.

Not that I don't think Draco could end up redeemed...

[Gem Dandi]

Do you think Lucius was prefect? Why or Why not?

Oh Yeah. I think he was perfect--oh, Jason again-- Yeah, in fact I wonder if he were head boy.

When do you think Lucius started working for The Dark Lord? What made him join him?

The Womb. I mean it. Remember that Tom Riddle began recruiting when he was in school. And Hagrid says the Malfoys have always been Dark Wizards. Malfoy's Dad or Mom possibly pledged him to The Dark Lord.

Do you think Lucius will ever be redeemed?

It seems hard to believe but I keep recalling the scene at the end of the Pianist where this Nazi sneaks food into the attic for the title character in hiding.

You expect the Mother to be redeemed for a child--but a man, it rarely happens unless he's breathing his last.(Help me get this mask off... It would be a nice change for the man to be redeemed and lived. I do not know if Lucius cares for Snape or not, but I think he loves his son. I could see it coming down to Draco protecting his teacher and Lucius is the man beneath the hood...It will change him or drive him deeper into The Dark Lord's web.

Do you think perhaps Lucius stopped the marauders from picking on Snape for his first year or two? In relation to that, could you see Lucius being mean to the younger students, even those in his own house?

As I think Lucius recruited Snape--No, I don't think he helped. Snape's solidtude, his unpopularity with his own house would speak to some specialized peer pressure. I think Snape was the type of person to be honest, no matter what it cost him and perhaps he expressed appreciation of Dumbledore. So Lucius watched surreptitiously, offered comfort-- Promised to be there for him, helped plot revenge, all the time generating Snapes resentment towards Dumbledore for not taking the Good Boys to task.

[ProfessorWannaBe]

Surely there has been some Lucius news in the past two years!

Well, there certainly is today. Courtesy of The Leaky Cauldron we find that Lucius has once again made the Forbes list of richest fictional characters.

[Vivian]

Ah...hot, nasty, elitist...and rich beyond measure...

Thanks for the link, PWB!

[Rella]

Sad to hear that he's still in chokey though ...

Although I'm sure, given his resources, that it is a more comfortable ride than others might experience.

Wonder if he has visitors?

[Vivian]

At the risk of going
Re: Lucius having a more comfortable ride due to his considerable charms (i.e. cash-ol-a!) - don't they all have a more comfy time since the Dementors are AWOL? This is something that has really been bothering me lately. Who is guarding and torturing the not-so-lucky in Azkaban? Not that humans are up to the loathsome tasks themselves - it's just that the Dementors have been sooo made much of that I can't help but wonder about this.

[damnedest creature]

In regards to Lucius as a father, I always see him as someone who puts large amounts of pressure on his son, and Draco wants to/is forced to impress him, even if some of the things may seem unethical.